童聲回響,「聲」生不息 
Voices Ignite, Culture Unite!

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Q1: Principal Bukut Tasvaluan, can you introduce yourself?

I am one of the founders of Vox Nativa Taiwan.  

Q4 :   What elite activities has Vox Nativa Taiwan organized? For instance, our school has many elite activities, such as climbing Jade Mountain and swimming across Sun Moon Lake. What do you think is the core value of these elite activities, and how do these values reflect your educational philosophy within the association?

We’ve done quite a lot of activities, like the cycling trips. Unlike you, who do a full circle around Taiwan, we only do small segments, usually just one or two days of cycling. We also have mountain climbing activities.

(Interviewer: I’ve seen you go hiking up Jade Mountain.)

For our graduation trip in high school, instead of traveling, we go mountain climbing. When our junior high students graduate, they also climb a mountain. It's not always a big mountain, the goal is to get the kids outside to experience nature. Through climbing, we want to convey a few important values. The first is the value of humility. When you see the vastness of nature, we want the kids to realize how small they are in the grand universe and learn to be humble. The second is fostering mutual care and support among the kids. We want them to help each other throughout the process. The third value is perseverance. When you're exhausted, it's not just physical strength that gets you through, it’s mental toughness. So we train the children so that they can face challenges and keep pushing forward.  

Q5 :   Among other traditional cultures, why did you choose choir as one of the key goals for development?

From the perspective of the Bunun, there are three key layers to our chorus. The first is the relationship between people. In the chorus, we learn to respect, embrace, share, and support each other. These values are very important in our Bunun worldview. Singing is about respecting different individuals, embracing different voices, sharing our voices and emotions, and supporting one another. In our traditional concept of choral singing, it’s also about listening to others. When someone’s voice is weaker, we adjust our voice to support theirs rather than emphasizing our own. This is a process of mutual support. During traditional performances, I may even turn and sing towards someone else to help them. This concept of chorus singing in the Bunun tribe is different from the Western choral approach. I want to teach choral singing from the Bunun perspective, which emphasizes the relationship between people. This relationship has several layers: the relationship among group members, the relationship with the conductor, and the relationship with the audience. How we connect with the audience and create resonance with them is something we strive for. Often, people say that our choir sounds beautiful, but the feedback we receive is more than just “good-sounding”, it’s about the emotion that resonates with the audience. "Resonance" is a mutual connection, unlike a one-sided appreciation of sound. This is what we aim for in our choir. The second layer is the relationship between people and nature. Most Indigenous songs come from nature, and we teach children how to sing with the mindset of nature, and how to sing with nature. The third layer is the relationship with the heavens. In choral singing, we pursue harmony between people, nature, and the heavens. We use our singing to communicate with others, visiting nursing homes, hospitals, and churches to sing for those who need care.  

Q6 :   We researched information about your association online, and we found some details regarding language courses for Indigenous peoples. I would like to ask your opinion on why such courses are important for children of Indigenous backgrounds.  

The Indigenous language is not just a tool for communication, behind the language itself lies a crucial cultural significance and value. Let me give you an example: do you know how a married couple is referred to in the Bunun tribe? They are called "buga," which means "simultaneously making a sound." There is no concept of "man first, woman second," or "male superiority, female inferiority." The idea here is that the sound is made at the same time, emphasizing equality between men and women. Behind the language, there are important thoughts and values of the people. This is why I emphasize this point: language is not just a tool for communication, but it contains a deep cultural essence.

Q7 :   What do you think is the importance of integrating Aboriginal cultural heritage and education?

Education is inherently about passing down culture. However, our current education system is largely based on Chinese culture. Most of what is taught is rooted in Chinese culture. Most of what is taught is rooted in Chinese culture. What I hope is that most of what is taught is rooted in Chinese culture. We can have more courses in schools that convey our own culture. For example, as I mentioned, the chorus is a way to pass on our culture. Our Indigenous language is also a way to pass on our culture. Climbing mountains, for example, is a concept that differs between the Bunun people and the Chinese. Through these activities, I hope to gradually pass on the entire worldview, and cultural thinking of Indigenous people to our children, the knowledge system, which can be passed down to future generations.

Q8 :   Next, what are some goals you hope the association can achieve? And what kind of influences do you hope the association can provide to the students?

So I hope that through the education system of this association, we will help students in need with education, giving them the confidence to dream about their future. Providing them a chance to see and experience the world personally, or even become part of global citizens, participating and communicating in global events. Due to the lack of resources and vague goals in the past, our students did not have the confidence and ability to step out. We use the power of our association to help and support children with different education systems, to let them dream bravely. Moreover, to rearrange their life, and this is our main idea.

Interview with the student from Yuan Sheng International Academy   

Q1 :   Hello! Can you introduce yourself?

My name is Yang Ruman, I'm Paiwan and bunun. My dad is Paiwan and my mom is Bunun. My ethnic name is demanruman, everyone calls me Ruman because it comes from my ethnic name.

Q2 :   What do you think is the most attractive aspect of this school, and does it hold any special meaning for you?

Everyone here is Indigenous and passionate about the culture we share—very passionate and eager to rediscover lost aspects of it. Although our school encourages us to bring children out of the tribes to explore the outside world, I didn’t grow up in the tribe. My sense of identity was always unclear, and at times, I even felt some resentment toward it. Later, my mother told me about this school, and I decided to come here. Eventually, I realized that everyone here is proud of their Indigenous identity. After attending this school, I gradually reconnected with my Indigenous cultural identity and came to accept it.

Q3 :   What is your favorite curriculum?

We have a required course called Indigenous Culture Class, which is taught by Principal Bukut Tasvaluan. In this course, we learn about cultures from other Indigenous groups, and we’re also tasked with creating reports. Through the process of preparing these reports, we gain a deeper understanding of groups we’re less familiar with. Sometimes, the course also introduces us to the Plains Indigenous peoples, the groups on the verge of disappearing. The Plains Indigenous include many groups—possibly 11 or even 16. However, to this day, we still don’t know exactly how many there are. Some of us are quite passionate about uncovering and reclaiming that lost part of the Plains Indigenous heritage.

Q4 :   Do you admire your tribe, or do you occasionally return to it to observe and connect with its culture?

I rarely return now because I didn’t grow up in the tribe. When I do visit, the festivals are usually already over. So, I’ve never participated in the traditional seasons of my tribe. However, I’ve attended the seasonal festivals of the Tsou. Now, when I return to my tribe, I want to dive deeper into understanding the history of our tribe and how it was in the past. 

Q5 :   Besides exploring history and the reasons related to your identity, what other reasons make you want to join this school?

Originally, I wanted to step out because I had mostly non-Indigenous friends around me. I wanted to learn more about my own culture.

Q6 :   I’ve heard that your school also has some elite activities, like swimming in Sun Moon Lake. What’s the most memorable experience for you from those activities?

We don’t particularly focus on selecting elite individuals because we aim to provide resources for everyone. However, I have participated in some English contests in the past, and I took part in two of them, both of which I did quite well in. Sometimes because we have both junior high and elementary levels, the high school section organizes a camp during the winter or summer break. We design the courses here and then present them to the junior high and elementary students. We also have activities like cycling trips or mountain climbing. For example, our graduation ceremony and trip included hiking to Jade Mountain. 

Q7 : Right now, you’re learning new songs and focusing on cultural aspects. Do you think you’d like to apply this knowledge in the future? Or is there a specific field you'd like to pursue?

I want to return to the tribe. Even though I don’t know much about my own culture, I hope to use our singing to inspire those in the tribe who may feel hopeless about their lives. The biggest issues in the tribe right now are things like smoking and drinking. I think Principal Bukut Tasvaluan put it well — our singing isn’t just about being beautiful, it’s about moving people. I believe that if we go back to the tribe and sing in places like churches or towns, it could help those who are lost find hope again. 

Q8 : Do you have a specific field or direction you’d like to pursue in the future?

I’m still exploring, but I hope to return to the tribe and help with the parts that need assistance.

Interview with Principal Hsieh